It’s been five years since BetaFPV released their last Tiny Whoop, the Meteor65. Now, BetaFPV has finally unveiled the Air65, a new 1S 65mm Tiny Whoop. Designed to cater to both freestyle and racing pilots, the Air65 comes in two flavours, each offering an ultra-lightweight build and different power systems to suit various flight styles. In this review, we’ll dive into the hardware and flight performance, and see how it compares to the popular Mobula6 2024. I will also share my custom PID and filter tune for optimized flying experience.
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Where to Buy?
You can get the BetaFPV Air65 Tiny Whoop from:
- BetaFPV: https://oscarliang.com/product-6qwg
- AliExpress: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCFw2kf
- GetFPV: https://oscarliang.com/product-b8vn
- RDQ: https://oscarliang.com/product-4tup
There are two versions, freestyle and racing. Not sure which one to get? I will talk about it later in this review to help you decide.
- Freestyle Edition: Features 23000KV motors paired with HQ 31mm Ultralight propellers.
- Racing Edition: Equipped with 27000KV motors and GF 1219S-3B propellers.
Opening the BetaFPV Air65 package, you’ll find:
- The Air65 1S 65mm Tiny Whoop drone
- A set of spare propellers
- USB-C Adapter for configuring the drone
- User manual available online via a QR code
Note: The battery is not included. Get the recommended BetaFPV LAVA 1S LiHV here:
- 1S 260mAh: https://oscarliang.com/product-cmo2
- 1S 300mAh: https://oscarliang.com/product-8zi8
Specifications
Here’s a comparison of the BetaFPV Air65 with the previous Meteor65.
Specification | Air65 | Meteor65 |
---|---|---|
Weight (w/o battery) | 17.1g | 22.8g |
Prop Size | 65mm | 65mm |
Frame | Meteor65 Air Frame | Meteor65 Frame |
Canopy | Micro Air Canopy | Micro Canopy 2022 |
FC & ESC | G4 Air FC | F4 1S 5A AIO FC |
VTX | Integrated 5.8GHz VTX (400mw) | M03 VTX (25mW) |
Camera | C03 Camera | C03 Camera |
Motors | 0702SE 23000-27000kv | 0802SE 19500kv |
Propeller | GF 1219S-3B / HQ 31mm Ultralight | GF 31mmx3 |
Battery Connector | BT2.0 | BT2.0 |
Battery | LAVA 1S 260mAh/300mAh 75C | 1S 300mAh 30C |
Flight Time | 2.5 to 4 mins | 4mins |
RX | PNP/ELRS |
Flight Controller specs:
- MCU: STM32 G473
- Gyro: ICM42688-P
- Supports Betaflight OSD
- 16MB Flash memory for Blackbox logs
- 4 UARTs
- Integrated 5.8GHz 400mW Analog VTX
- Integrated 4-in-1 5A ESC
- Solder pads for motors
Closer Look
The Air65 boasts an ultra-lightweight design, weighing merely 17.1 grams without battery, making it one of the lightest BNF tiny whoops I’ve tested so far. This lightweight design enhances maneuverability and responsiveness.
The drone comes in two versions: Freestyle and Racing, each equipped with different KV motors and propellers to suit various flying styles.
Freestyle | Racing | |
Motors | 0702SE 23000kv | 0702SE 27000kv |
Propellers | Gemfan 1219S-3 | HQ 31mmx3 Ultralight |
The lower 23000KV gives you longer flight time (about 30 to 40 seconds more on average on 1S 300mAh), while the 27000KV offers more power and responsiveness. If you can’t decide which version to get, I’d recommend the Racing Edition. The higher 27000KV motor KV is becoming the new standard in tiny whoop racing, making your whoop feel more agile and powerful. If you find it too fast, you can always reduce its power by setting a lower motor output limit or scaling down your throttle.
The C03 FPV camera offers decent performance in a well-lit environments, however it might not be the best in low light.
The flight controller is the new G4 Air FC with a G473 processor and ICM42688P gyro, proving to be reliable in my two weeks of testing. This AIO FC integrates the FC, 4-in-1 ESC, OSD, and 400mW VTX. However, it doesn’t have an integrated ExpressLRS receiver, so you will find an external RX mounted on the FC. The Air65 FC offers 4 UARTs, a current sensor, and 16MB memory for Blackbox! Those are fantastic features to have on a tiny whoop, and very rare. I think this FC is a good choice if you plan to build a tiny whoop from scratch. The flight controller is available here: https://oscarliang.com/product-dhlc.
What’s interesting is that the USB port can power the VTX without a battery! That’s useful when troubleshooting and setting up the drone as you don’t need to plug in your battery.
One of the biggest criticisms I have about the BetaFPV Air65 is its camera angle. I find even the lowest camera angle too high, making it hard to maneuver indoors in tight spaces.
I wish the adjustment belt at the rear of the canopy was longer and had perhaps a couple of extra holes to allow a lower angle, which could be beneficial for beginners.
For now, I came up with a workaround by removing the screws at the rear and attaching the canopy using a zip tie. This effectively lowers the camera angle, without introducing any vibration or jello, and doesn’t seem to reduce durability either.
Comparing Air65 to Mobula6 2024
The Mobula6 2024 has been one of the most popular tiny whoops since its release earlier this year. Despite some hardware and quality control issues, the features and performance it offers are just revolutionary.
The BetaFPV Air65 has its own issues, as mentioned in this review, but it does have better hardware quality control in my opinion. There are pros and cons to these models, and I will break them down here.
Note that the Mobula6 comes with two sets of spare props (12 props in total) while the BetaFPV only comes with one set (8 props in total). Come on BetaFPV, give us one more set! :)
Weight
Weighs at only 17.1g, the Air65 is about 0.5g lighter than the Mobula6, mainly due to the lightweight FC design, which has a more compact diamond shape. BetaFPV also replaced the USB port with a small plastic JST connector to further reduce weight. The downside is that you have to use a USB-C adapter when connecting to Betaflight, which could be annoying for some, but personally, I have not found that to be an issue. You do have to remember to bring the adapter with you if you are traveling with the Air65, or else you can’t access Betaflight Configurator.
Frame Design
Frame and canopy designs are highly similar between the BetaFPV Air65 and Mobula6 2024, but the canopy plastic used in the Air65 is wider, which contributes to its better durability. Durability has been an issue in the Mobula6, as the canopy doesn’t hold up with extensive use and crashes. So far, the canopy in the Air65 has been holding up really well for me. The other difference is the camera mounting, where the Air65 is friction-mounted in the canopy using just one screw, while in the Mobula6, the camera is mounted using two screws on the back of the camera. This doesn’t seem to make a huge difference TBH.
When it comes to frame and canopy, there are many different colors you can choose from.
Motors
Both the Air65 and Mobula6 use 0702 motors, which is the standard for 65mm tiny whoops nowadays. The Mobula6 motors have a 28000KV, similar to the Air65 Racing Edition’s 27000KV, while BetaFPV also offers the Freestyle Edition with a much lower 23000KV.
I really like the motors in the Mobula6 as they seem to have more grip in the air and are slightly more responsive. It’s a subtle feeling, but I think one of the reasons behind this could be the magnets – the Mobula6 motors have curved magnets while the Air65 just has regular magnets.
Personally I’d recommend the high KV version. It’s definitely not the most efficient, but it’s just more powerful and fun to fly. Regardless of your flying style and levels, if you want to go slower, you can always lower the motor output or scale down throttle in Betaflight or in your radio. I have a guide here: https://oscarliang.com/reduce-power-throttle-taranis-betaflight/
I find setting a motor output limit of around 85% on the 27000KV matches the power of the 23000KV, but somehow I still feel the 27000KV is more agile.
Battery
The 90-degree angled battery plug of the BetaFPV is such a nice touch and indeed more user-friendly. BetaFPV uses BT2.0 connectors, while the Mobula6 uses A30. While they are different connectors, they are semi-compatible; it just takes a bit more force to plug and unplug them. The Mobula6 has a straight connector which puts a lot of stress on the solder joints when using long 300mAh packs, and the leads are too short to get the battery in the center which potentially impacts weight distribution.
Between the LAVA 1S 260mAh and 1S 300mAh battery packs, I’d recommend the 300mAh. Although the 260mAh is slightly lighter, it noticeably loses punch in the second half of the pack, and the weight saving and increase in flight performance isn’t enough to justify the flight time loss in my opinion. I tested these batteries here: https://oscarliang.com/whoop-toothpick-lipo-battery/#1S-LiPoLiHV
Image Quality
The FPV camera in the Air65 works brilliantly in a well-lit environment. When flying at night with lights on, it clearly outperforms the Mobula6 – it feels brighter, and the image seems clearer. However, in low light conditions (e.g., during the day with curtains drawn), the Mobula6’s camera provides a better image than the Air65. I can’t call a clear winner here as they excel in different lighting conditions.
Price
The Air65 is $20 cheaper than the Mobula6 2024, it’s a no brainer!
Flight Performance
I must admit, out of the box, the Mobula6 2024 edition flew better with its stock tune (though it’s by no means the best tune and still has room for improvement). The Air65 came with a custom PID/filter tune but it felt loose and not as locked in. However, after some in-depth tuning, the Air65 can definitely match the performance of the Mobula6, if not surpassing it. I will put my tuning and settings below in this review so you can try it. It flies so much better, more responsive and locked in.
Here’s the flight times tested with their default settings (aggressive style flying at constant 50-60% throttle) and their respective hover throttle:
Freestyle Edition | Racing Edition | |
1S 260mAh | 4:00 | 3:40 |
1S 300mAh | 4:30 | 4:00 |
Hover Throttle (300mAh fully charged) | 35% | 30% |
How to Set Up for First Flight
The FC comes with Betaflight 4.5.0, and the FC target is BETAFPVG473. You can find the default CLI diff here.
Firstly, bind the receiver,
Receiver firmware target is BETAFPV 2.4GHz Lite RX. Follow this guide if you don’t know how: https://oscarliang.com/bind-expresslrs-receivers/
For maiden flight, here are the Betaflight configurations:
- Load ExpressLRS Preset
- Set Your Rates
- Enable Telemetry
- Set Arm switch, angle mode switch, turtle mode switch
- Set OSD (disable “Core Temperature” under warnings)
Advanced Tuning and Settings
If you want to improve the Air65’s flight performance and have a better experience, here are my recommendations:
- In Power & Battery, set Minimum Cell Voltage to 3.0V, Warning Cell Voltage to 3.2V. Set Scale from 750 to 720 under Amperage Meter.
- Reduce Angle strength to 90, or even 75 based on your taste, 100 just feels too rigid.
- Set Angle Limit to 60 (this basically controls the your roll/pitch stick responsiveness).
- Motor idle 7%.
Reflash Bluejay: They already come with Bluejay 0.19 flashed, but with 96KHz PWM Frequency. You can flash them to a lower PWM frequency for more motor braking power, which would make the quad more responsive at the cost of flight time. If you suffer from vibration issues with 24KHz, try 48KHz or just leave it at 96KHz. ESC Firmware Target: A-X-5.
You will get less flight time when going down in PWM frequency, but the quad will feel more responsive and tighter around turns. I think 48KHz is a good balance. Here are the average flight times with different PWM frequencies with 1S 300mAh (constant 50-60% throttle aggressive flying):
- 96KHz: 4:00
- 48KHz: 3:40
- 24KHz – 2:50
PID Tuning
Note: Leave Motor Output Limit at 100 for optimal performance. I was testing various values and forgot to set this back to 100 :)
Filter Tuning:
Reduce RPM filtering:
Set rpm_filter_weights = 100, 60, 0
save
My rates for Angle Mode:
See this post for the best settings and tips to enhance your Tiny Whoop experience: https://oscarliang.com/best-tinywhoop-settings/
Conclusion
The BetaFPV Air65 1S 65mm Tiny Whoop is an impressive addition to the FPV hobby. Its ultra-lightweight design, powerful motors, and advanced flight controller make it a versatile choice for pilots of all skill levels.
You can get the BetaFPV Air65 Tiny Whoop from:
- BetaFPV: https://oscarliang.com/product-6qwg
- AliExpress: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCFw2kf
- GetFPV: https://oscarliang.com/product-b8vn
It’s easy to set up and flies well. I think BetaFPV has better quality control and hardware than the Mobula6, and yet it’s $20 cheaper! I’d definitely encourage you to try my custom settings and tune on this whoop to optimize performance. For me, it’s the best Tiny Whoop in 2024 in terms of value and performance, hands down.
36 comments
Can we put a HD camera on the air65?
Nah too heavy. to put action camera on whoop, you should be looking at least 85mm size ones.
Nice, comprehensive review. Can’t wait to try the tune.
What about HappyModel Mobeetle vs Air65?
Mobeetle is outdated in terms of specs. Air65 is better IMHO.
Hello, I’m a beginner and I’ve just bought this Air 65, I ordered it with Lava 260mAh batteries. I never exceed 2m10s flight time, hovering, LOS, with vtx power at zero and motor output power at 90, mode acro. I land at 3.2 V. I’m a long way from four minutes, which is a problem, because I’m thinking that when I buy goggles and use the vtx, I might get even less. Do you have any idea where the problem might come from?
Thank you for your help
Are your ESC flashed with Bluejay 96KHz? If you had lower frequency that could reduce your flight time. Also make sure your charge those batteries to 4.35V if they are LiHV.
Thanks for your answer. ESC are setting 95 KHz out of the box and i checked it with BlueJay, my Lipo are charged to 4.35 V and the batterie is corectly calibrated in betaflight. the only way to increase flight time to 2mn 20s is setting motor output limit to 80 but the quad is not nervous. I have the same flight time with all my Lava Lipo . After se flight, the battery voltage bounce fron 3V to 3.5V. Maybe my Lava batt are not good but i bought it one week ago.
what kind of charger do you have? Does it report how much mAh it’s charged into the battery? If so you can verify if the battery was fully discharged in the previous flight by checking the mAh charged in the charger. If it’s not charged close to the rated capacity of the battery (e.g. 80-90%), then something might be wrong with the battery. But i am sure you got more than one pack? You might get one faulty one but it’s quite unlikely that all the batteries are bad. If all batteries are performing the same, then it’s something wrong with the quad.
Also try verify the battery voltage using a multimeter – to see if the drone is reporting the correct value in OSD.
I have a vifly whoopstor3, it did not report mAh charged into the battery but bought a pack of five 260 mAh who provide 2m10 s flight time and one pack of five 300mAh who provide 2m50s flight time, and i agree that the problem is the quad. I reset it to factory setting and flight time is the same. I’ve checked the battery voltage with multimeter and calibrate voltage scale in betaflight, the value of multimeter and quad are the same. My last hope maybe is calibrate scale of amperage but i need a charger who display charged mAh for that.
hello Oscar, did you solve the problem?
Hello Oscar, when you bought your air65 did it come with a recever module for a remote and if so, what was the reciver’s protocol? Thanks!
By receiver module, do you mean a radio receiver? If so, then yes, it comes with an ExpressLRS receiver.
It’s compatible with an ExpressLRS transmitter. Here are some examples of radios and transmitter modules: https://oscarliang.com/setup-expresslrs-2-4ghz/#ExpressLRS-24GHz-Hardware-Selection
What size zip tie for the mod. The angle is way too much for me as I’m just learning and not in a huge open space
I am using 2mm wide zip ties.
Hello and thank you for great content :)
I applied your rates and as they are great for angle mode I can’t flight the quad on acro. In acro mode roll and pitch is so slow that I think quad changes position veery slowly like 1deg per second even while pushing the stick to it’s max ;) how could I fix it?
you can have acro rates on a different profile, and switch to it based on your flight mode switch position, here are the instructions on how to do it: https://oscarliang.com/best-tinywhoop-settings/#Switching-Rate-Profiles
Hi Oscar,
I’ve ordered an Air65 race version from a retailer here in the UK but I need a radio transmitter and it’s not clear whether I need ELRS 2.4 or 4IN1. The specs on the retailer’s site say ‘optional ELRS’ but your review suggests the quad comes with an external ELRS receiver. I’m looking at betafpv’s Lite Radio 3 pro but it comes in two versions, ELRS or Frsky multi. Which should I get?
If you look at the official product page they don’t really offer any radio options, so I suppose ELRS is the only option. But if you are still in doubt it’s best to check with the shop you bought it from for the peace of mind.
When you say “Load the ExpressELRS Preset” above, can you explain what you mean? Is that one of the preexisting presets that can be found by searching on the Betaflight Configurtor presets tab? When I searched I found several.
I’m a newbie, but I’ve been confused by the ELRS configuration for this drone. On my Mobula6, I am able to simply locate a passphrase field in the configurator, but for this drone I am unable to find that field anywhere…
What packet rate are you using in ExpressLRS? Say if you are using 150Hz, then go to the preset tab in Betaflight, and search for “ExpressLRS 150Hz”, and apply that to your quad.
For more detail see this section: https://oscarliang.com/fpv-drone-tuning/#Step-1-Basic-Configurations#:~:text=5.%20Load%20the%20appropriate%20RC_Link%20preset.
Hi, elsewhere on your website (which is great though) you say that one is better be landing at 3.5V but here you recommend to set warning voltage to 3.2V
Why?
For tiny whoops that use 1S batteries, it’s typically okay to land at 3.2V, but for higher cell count batteries, use the 3.5V rule.
I just had the Air65 delivered yesterday and is my very first tinywhoop. I literally cracked the frame like 2 flights in by moderately hitting a lawn chair in my yard. Wasn’t even that hard. I am quite surprised how easily it cracked on the prop guard ring area. I used some scotch tape around it to prevent it from interfering with the prop but man Was really bummed out about it. I ordered the meteor 65 frame to fix it. Hoping it’s not too challenging to replace. I also noticed the voltage displayed in the OSD shows lower than the Whoopstor 3 charger shows. Not sure which is inaccurate. It’s a good .15 to .2 volts difference which is kind of unnerving.
Hi Oscar,
I extended my motor wires and put the air brushless 65mm 4 in 1 AIO into my meteor 75 Pro and I have to say my whoop has never really flown as good as it is now. I purchased the lava 550mah batteries and I’m really pleased with my flight times and performance they bring. When I heard that at 25mw the VTX is putting out more, I had high hopes, but in reality, the built in vtx doesn’t penetrate as well as other after-market 400mw units or even the betafpv M03 vtx.
Did you happen to test the VTX output? Chris Rosser’s video said something about the VTX putting out much more than 25mW. This could be bad for racers.
hey just to clarify.. the air 65 comes with a ELRS reciever preinstalled and soldered? Thanks!
Yes.
Any news on the Air75 yet?
Its beign sold already but do you have review coming about it?
I haven’t heard anything about it yet.
Does the FC have a current meter? Thanks!
yes.
Is it possible to bind this to VTX to work with the Walksnail Avatar HD Googles X?
No, it’s analog VTX, so you will need an analog goggles or analog receiver module for your Goggles X.
I have Goggles X, do you have a recommendation for an analog VRX to work with them?
I was hoping Walksnail would come out with an addon board to do it (and pref include DVR on that).
Honestly I don’t. I am still waiting for Walksnail to release an official mount for analog support. There are custom designs but they don’t look very good so I am still using my Skyzone SKYO4X Pro for analog.
Try thingiverse there are some options there for 3D printed mounts.
As to VRX, TBS Fusion or ImmersionRC Rapidfires are my top choices.