Doug from our Multicopter Group was frustrated by his slow progress of FPV learning , and asked how he could improve his flying. The outpouring support and suggestions from our group members were simply amazing and encouraging. That’s why I feel I have the need to share it to everyone, maybe it would be useful to someone who has the same frustration too.
Also check out Sirdude’s post about how he struggled with FPV, but finally getting good at it.
My first experience with FPV (after learning LOS) has not gone well… Something about the lack of perception in all directions really causes me to not be able to “get it”. I am thinking of putting the goggles aside and just going with a screen.
a) good/bad idea?
b) 7″ big enough? 10″ better?
c) Should I go with a mounting bracket on my FlySky transmitter or a tripod/other mount?
I suspect most of you are using goggles and can disregard my newbieness but I really thought, due to my video-gaming “career”, that this would be something much more natural. I see your videos and think “Oh yeah, I can do that” but when I put the goggles on I can barely last 20 seconds
I also need to find a really good spot. I always seem to have space restrictions… So you guys think switching to, or at least trying a monitor to learn is not going to help that much? I can see how it might be distracting/disorienting to switch between the 2 perspectives.
Using Monitor/Screen or FPV Goggles ?
I know this feelings – but usually this is a result of the wrong goggles. Get a decent FPV Goggles helps a lot!
I started on FPV and still can’t fly LOS and I skimped on the goggles and I sorely regret it, my first few flights really sucked, it didn’t “click” until I could see well. Definitely invest in the higher end Dominators or a Headplay, and don’t give up, just do it a few times and things will begin to click. You’ll have this “ah ha” moment and you’ll be hooked like the rest of us.
Honestly I find myself being distracted with a screen and end up looking at the quad instead of the screen. Bad news if your LOS skills lack. Keep at it with the LOS though, never know when it could save you from a crash, lose video and then.
I flew with a screen for months with no problems. Goggles really help you focus on what’s ahead though. It took a while to get used to FPV even with a screen. Just suck it up and stick with it. You’ll get used to FPV quicker than you think.
If you get yourself a monitor look for at least 800×480 resolution, the 480×270 thingies you get everywhere are really crap and it’s hard to spot any details..
Lots of great suggestions there! Thanks Guys! Doug don’t give up!! ;) I flew with a 7″ monitor for 1 year when i started, it was all fine, but it wasn’t easier than my DomV2 goggles… at the end of the day, i think it’s just a matter of getting used to what you use!
Fly Forward in FPV !!!
Doug give it some time, get a boat load of props lower your rates and just do gentle manoeuvres. In about a weeks time you’ll be grateful you didn’t get a screen.
My first few weeks (after I learned the “always move forward rule”,) I set the camera level to the craft without any tilt and just moved super slow, flying large circles, close to the ground. The two things to concentrate on are altitude and turns. It helps to have a spotter to watch your craft LOS while you fly FPV and call out your approx. altitude so you get used to what different heights look like. You can then watch the ground recording and say, “Whoa! I thought I was a foot off the ground, but was really like 20 feet!”
What camera lens are you using? I find a 2.8mm lens is a good balanced view, not too wide, not too narrow. I first learned using a Mobius as an FPV cam… Really bad idea! Laggy and too wide screen. Really hard to tell distances.
I had that issue in the very beginning, among other things, because I still was “programmed” to steer like in LOS.. i.e. flying backwards to return to me or to avoid an obstacle. Fly like it was a video game or like you are driving a car and it will eventually “click”. Forward is the way to go, don’t even bother to fly backwards and sideways.
Just some comments, always go forward and if you want to look around just make a smooth small circle with yaw. Start with stabilized mode and use Goggles to able to focus on the screen only. Learn the “distances” as they will seem to be different than they are. Goto a big flat place and put something at middle that you can turn around. Learn the turn manoeuvres like using yaw and roll and throttle at the same time, to avoid drifting
Practice with Simulators
I can also relate, flying LOS for a while my first few FPV attempts were very discouraging. Almost quit there.
I then got on the FPV Simulator – Freerider for a few hours with my Goggles, with HDMI cable connected to my computer, and also connected my Taranis TX. Then when I went to my next FPV session, I feel like it was life changing :)
Aslo try to fly mostly forward, in the direction you see at first. Hope that helps.
Just Keep Practising!
Keep it going. We all have the same issues like yours for the first time. Once you earn it you will never look back again. Good luck. Practice make perfect. Keep it up.
You could try different lenses to get the ‘right’ fov, very important to get a natural feeling without too much distortion, else it always feels strange and uncomfortable. It shouldn’t be too hard if you have some gaming background to get used to fpv in a few days. If you’re not 100% safe flying LOS I find autolevel helpful to keep the copter slow. It will take some time to judge distances and speed correctly and cost you a lot of props and nerves :)
Doug, I have been struggling with this for months now, same thing after 20sec I crash, because am somewhere else then I thought I was, I use a headplay, also thought maybe to get a screen for learning, don’t know. Can fly LOS pretty well, but that doesn’t seem to help for FPV
I’ve got the Quanum DIY. I know they are cheap but the cost was too attractive to ignore. I figured if I liked it, I’d eventually upgrade and let my kid wear them while I was flying. I’ll have to check the lens, not sure about the lens but I’ll look into alternatives…
I think the bottom line is I need to log some hours! thanks folks
keep running. it will click all of a sudden.
My first fpv flight I was so scared. Once I got over that these things break and can be fixed it helped a ton. Takes a little to get use to with goggles but you get it. Fly nice and high so you don’t have to worry about the ground. You got this!