Runcam 3 VS GoPro Hero5 Session | HD Camera FPV

by Oscar
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GoPro Session is becoming a popular HD camera to use on mini quads due to its compact size, but it’s expensive! Here I have the new Runcam 3 which is designed for FPV and supposed to be much cheaper yet maintains the same form factor.

Update (27 Aug 2018): Runcam has released a new version – Runcam 3S Camera!

Make sure to check out our guide on how to choose a great HD camera for mini quad.

In this initial review we will compare the appearance, features, and performance of the two cameras.

You will be able to pre-order the Runcam 3 from Runcam.com or Banggood.

Appearance

Housing and Dimension

The Runcam still maintains the iconic bright orange colour. Many prefer orange colour because it’s easier to spot on the ground when crashed.

In terms of dimension, the Runcam 3 is nearly identical to the Session, both have width and height of 38mm. However the Runcam 3 is 1.5mm longer in length.

Also it’s worth noticing that on the Session 5, the 4 edges of the housing are a bit more rounded than the Runcam 3, making the Runcam incompatible with the mounting frame that comes with the Session.

The Session 5 has rubber housing while the Runcam 3 is made of hard plastic.

Button

There are 2 buttons on this camera, a shutter button (located on top), and a mode button (located on the back).

Mic

There are 2 microphones on the camera (located on top and back), and they are optimized to minimize wind noise.

USB Port

It uses Micro USB cable.

SD card slot

SD card slot is protected by a rubber lid so your SD is not going to pop out in crashes.

Silicone Mount

It comes with a silicone mount that is designed to be mounted on top of your mini quad. It also fits the session perfectly.

When using the rubber mount, It’s recommended to use a strap to hold the camera in place. Therefore you also don’t have to worry about dirt getting into the USB port, or SD card popping out (even there is already a rubber lid).

Features and Spec

Runcam 3 Session 5
Price $99 $300
Weight 66g 72.5g
Dimension 38x38x37.5mm 38x38x36mm
Video Resolution 1080p 60fps
720p 120fps
4K 30fps
2.7K 48fps
1080p 90fps
720p 120fps
Video File Format .MOV .MP4
Video Max Bitrate 30Mbps 30Mbps
45Mbps(protune)
Still Photo 2MP 10MP
Recording Time 85 mins @1080p60fps 90 mins @1080p60fps
USB Port Micro USB USB-C
Superview No Yes
Video Out for FPV Yes No
Water Proof No Yes
Image Stabilization No Yes
Voice Control No Yes
Smart Phone APP Yes Yes

Since the Runcam 3 is designed for FPV, Waterproof and Digital Image Stabilization aren’t really that a big deal IMO.

The Runcam 3 also has one of the lowest latency in video out mode, making it a great camera for FPV live feed while recording HD footage.

Image Quality

WDR is awesome on this camera. I didn’t even change any settings and it worked pretty well in many extreme situations such as pointing directly to the Sun or coming out of a dark tunnel. In these cases, the GoPro Session 5 just seemed to be either over-exposed or under-exposed.

Typo here in the photo, on the left is Session 5, right is Runcam 3.

I am comparing these cameras with their default settings. I am sure the GoPro could have performed better in these tests, but it might require some tweaking on the settings in each environment (white balance, ISO etc).

And for FOV, the Runcam 3 doesn’t do Superview. Personally I’m a big fan of GoPro’s Superview and I did ask Runcam repeatedly, but it’s just not possible at this stage unfortunately. The good news is, under “Wide” the FOV of the Runcam 3 and Session 5 are pretty similar.

Some more tests on a sunny day – this time I have Protune turned on for the GoPro.

Noon.

Evening.

WDR

One of the most important features to the Runcam 3 is the capability of WDR (wide dynamic range), which is optimized for FPV flying. It does make a huge difference when you have both dark and bright spots in one single image!

And Exposure value seems to affect the effectiveness of WDR. So depends on the environment you can fine tune it. It just shows that even with WDR you still need to adjust exposure to get the best possible image, depends on the environment and your preference.

However when WDR is tuned on, the image colour would appear to be a bit colder, kind of green-ish… One solution is to set a different white balance option, instead of using Auto.

Runcam is still working on improving image quality before the release. There are footage samples on the internet from the prototypes, however that might not be exactly how it will look like in the production version. Therefore I will publish footage when they have finished optimizing the image quality. Come back to check on a later date, or join our forum or FB group to receive notifications.

At this stage, I think the Runcam 3 makes a really good beginner HD camera, something you can just put on your quad, go out and fly. The GoPro provides the option to film in Flat Color, which gives the user more flexibility to colour correct in post production, and it’s not available in the Runcam 3. If you do a lot of video editing you might find the Session more powerful.

Another big consideration is the WDR, which is a great feature IMO and there is nothing like it on the market.

Footage Comparison

I am comparing the Runcam3 with Session5 with Superview and Protune on, because that’s what most people would be using on the GoPro, putting these images side by side would give a better impression what true differences there are.

It’s quite clearly GoPro has a much larger FOV, which is important for some people. But image quality wise, the Runcam 3 is so close to the Session 5, it’s even better in some high-light-contrast situations if you look closer. The image colour of the Runcam looks realistic and not over-saturated.

Please note that all footage is raw, only edit was the trimming.

Audio Quality Test

Audio test is included in the end of last video.

GoPro has a crispier and loader audio. But if you were using it for FPV, all you could hear is prop/motor noise anyway so that might not be a huge problem.

Video out Latency Test

Coming soon…

The Runcam 3 supports video out that allows you to use it for FPV real-time camera. On the GoPro 5, they have change the connector and I believe they have replaced AV output with HDMI video output, which is no longer compatible with the analogue video transmitter we use for FPV.

I was told latency of the Runcam 3 can match (or even better than) the Runcam 2, which only has about 40ms-50ms.

I will test the video latency of Runcam 3 with FPV cameras, just waiting for the video out cable…

No Dashcam?!

It’s worth pointing out that in the manual it says this:

Never use Runcam3 as a dashcam, this may damage the camera battery and create a safety hazard.

I was told by the camera manufacturer, due to the design of the enclosed housing, cooling has been a challenge, and I should avoid using the camera without good airflow. So the Runcam 3 is created for FPV use mainly!

What Are The Advantage of the Session 5?

I only bought the Session 5 a few days ago, so I am totally new to it. But I will try to update what I find as I learn more.

LCD Screen

Firstly I really like the little built-in LCD screen on the Session, that allows you to change settings right on the camera. With the Runcam 3 you will have to use a Smart Phone to do so. But saying that, I really don’t see myself changing settings on the Runcam once I have it tuned to my liking.

Features

Other features like Digital Stabilization, Voice Control, are sometimes useful like taking on a holiday trip. But if you are strictly using it for FPV then these are not that a big deal. Waterproof is actually a more important feature for me, there are times we fly over water or snow… :)

Warranty

In some countries (e.g. US and UK), GoPro warranty is available for some $20/year, which covers physical damage. Some might prefer the Gopro for this reason only! But I believe these insurance doesn’t cover camera lost, which means if you had a fly away, or if you had a cliff dive and lost the camera, then you are not covered.

FAQ

Since I posted info on IntoFPV.com, I have been messaged with questions, so I thought I might answer some of the popular ones here:

How to change settings?

There will be an APP available on iOS and Android. Camera can be connected via WIFI.

Smaller FOV?

When comparing the footage, the Runcam 3 does look a little bit smaller in field of view. However when I asked Runcam about this, they explained that the 2 cameras actually have almost the same horizontal FOV, but the vertical FOV of Session 5 is wider maybe that’s why.

Does Runcam 3 have Superview?

No, the Runcam 3 cannot do Superview at the moment.

From my understanding, the Superview of Session 5 is achieved by converting screen format from 4:3 to 16:9. But Runcam 3 can only record videos with screen aspect ratio of 16:9.

Release date?

I was told end of Feb 2017. Update: now looking more likely to be March.

Is it possible to change battery between flights?

No, the design doesn’t allow battery changing easily. You might have to take the camera apart, which is probably something we won’t do in the field.

Is it possible to charge the camera while filming?

Yes, the camera can accept 5V-17V external power (from spec). But it’s not recommended by Runcam as it’s bad for the battery. Working current is 600mA.

Why no 4K?!

I have 4K on my Gopro, and I barely use it in my filming (whether FPV or non-FPV). The majority of us don’t have a 4K monitor to view the 4K footage. At the moment, I believe 99% of us still use 1080p60fps for FPV.

How to update firmware?

Simply download the firmware file (.brn), put it on your SD card, the top directory.

Put the SD card back in your camera, and power it on, the camera LED will start flashing quickly and it will do the rest. Updating should only take 1-2 minutes, and when it finishes it will turn off automatically. You can check the version of the firmware in the Mobile App.

Update 20 March 2017

Silicone mount – Runcam decided not to supply this mount for the camera, as the material is too soft.

Update 04 May 2017

Runcam 3 has been discontinued from the US market, due to possible ornamental design infringement with GoPro session. The camera company will stop sales of the Runcam 3 in the US by 11 of May. It’s been confirmed personally by me with Runcam. It’s not clear yet at this stage if this will affect other region and countries.

Some orders placed with distributors in the US have been cancelled and refunded. However if you still wish to buy this camera, you can try to purchase directly from Runcam’s website or Banggood.

Any Other Questions? Just comment down below.

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54 comments

sscott4 18th July 2017 - 3:10 pm

looking to buy the fpv mount for the run cam 3 do you sell it seperately

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Michael Sweeting 7th June 2017 - 12:38 pm

Hi Oscar,
I own 2 Runcam 3s. I loved them both until i got an sd card error on 1 and the battery will not charge on the other. So now both of them are not working correctly. Ive tried 3 sd cards and it just says “sd card undetected”. As for the other, it will work fully only on usb cable attached, no power on without usb cable. I live in the US and i dont know what to do because of the discontinued status. What would your advice be? Thanks!

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Oscar 12th June 2017 - 4:33 pm

Runcam should still support the units you bought, They still have some left over maybe they can send you replacement, get in touch with them.

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Chris Osborne 1st June 2017 - 5:44 am

Oscar,

You really put together great articles and I really appreciate your input on all things KWADS. When researching the runcam 3 I happened across this web site espritoutdoor.wordpress.com/2017/02/ where it looks as if a wordpress blogger copied and pasted your entire article. Not sure if this concerns you or not, just thought I’d let you know.

Thanks again for all of your hard work.

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Oscar 3rd June 2017 - 3:15 pm

thanks for the kind words Chris and heads up. We’ll contact the guy.

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Dr. One 15th May 2017 - 10:01 am

Hi

has anyone a stl File for a Mount or better an enclosure that protect it?

Dr.One

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Oscar 15th May 2017 - 2:56 pm

I am using Session5 mounts printed in TPU.. lots of different designs on Thingiverse..
The only thing I need to change is the size, i have to make it 103% larger to fit the Runcam 3.

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Tom G 10th May 2017 - 7:30 pm

Great review. Do you think the Runcam can fit any of the s=Session aftermarket diving housings? The housing from Runcam is only good to 33ft or so.

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Oscar 15th May 2017 - 2:31 pm

i don’t think so, the dimension isn’t exactly the same.
Flexible housing like TPU might fit, but hard plastic might not.

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Jonas 10th May 2017 - 9:00 am

Dear Oscar,

Thank you for a great detailed review.
Maybe you have and could share full size, not croped/resized photos from runcam3?
Thank you in advance

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Lee Trevarthen 28th April 2017 - 12:51 pm

Do you know if the runcam3 has external mic capability?
Cheers

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Anas 29th April 2017 - 9:06 pm

same question. I’m planning to use it for Paramotoring and I will need to connect a mic to it.

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Oscar 1st May 2017 - 4:27 pm

No it doesn’t.

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Ss 18th April 2017 - 10:55 pm

Have you seen these reports of folks cameras being out of focus?

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Oscar 26th April 2017 - 8:58 pm

no not really, I have tried 3 cameras and they don’t have issue with focus.

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marco 5th April 2017 - 1:16 pm

Hi,
the Silicone Mount it’s the same for session? Same measurement?

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Oscar 14th April 2017 - 5:42 pm

The Runcam 3 is a tiny bit bigger than the session.. but the rubber mount fits perfectly though.

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DANIEL PETERS 2nd April 2017 - 11:18 pm

If they have decided to not supply the silicone mount, how will I mount this to my quad?

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Oscar 3rd April 2017 - 6:31 pm

you will have to 3D print mounts yourself… normal Session mounts work for the runcam 3

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Mattn 18th February 2017 - 5:09 pm Reply
Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:26 pm

Yes, I already pointed out in the image caption :)

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Cedric CRISPIN 18th February 2017 - 3:10 am

Hi super Oscar :)

Can you put pressure on them in order to allow recording with PAL framerates like 25fps & 50fps! Any other cameras on the market can do that but for some reasons, Runcam does not want to do it!

Have a great weekend

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:42 pm

You mean video out??
I thought your VTX can’t transmit 50fps anyway why would you want that ?! LOL it sounds like a niche demand

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Andrew Hyams 19th February 2017 - 8:42 am

PAL frequency recording means you avoid beat frequencies when filming under artificial light. NTSC and PAL are different cos we have different standards of mains AC

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Joe 17th February 2017 - 10:00 am

I like the mount, any idea what angle it’s at?

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:41 pm

I think it’s 30 degree..

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WaffleFPV 15th February 2017 - 7:58 am

Surely the sensor is 4:3 and the software is simply cutting it. Very sad to here that it will never get 4:3 (for whatever reason) and superview is never going to happen :( Maybe it was a cooling issue. Who knows….

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WicketFPV 16th February 2017 - 12:51 am

dang.. you were just the person I was hoping to say “I can fix that!”…

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vvazz0 14th February 2017 - 8:32 pm

Great comparison Oscar. Have you checked out the Polaroid Cube?

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:34 pm

not really, it can only do 30fps, and it has a very narrow FOV… so not even considering it.

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andrew 14th February 2017 - 9:07 am

Looking at the images supplied there is a big diff. in dynamic range which should be the main factor as most vids will be dubbed.

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:32 pm

Like i mentioned in the conclusion, I think the RC3 will make a good cam for those who don’t want to do much video editing, the footage will come out looking pretty nice already. However the Gopro allows more flexibility in editing and also kind of required, if you want footage to look great. And superview is another great feature that is missing in the RC3.

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WicketFPV 14th February 2017 - 2:11 am

Hi Oscar!

This is great info and I am looking forward to more. I am actually about to replace my Xiaomi Yi and the RunCam 3 is looking good! Do you have a way and if so would you be willing to do a comparison of the RC3 with the Yi? If it makes it more worth your time maybe do it against a few other popular options including the Yi. Also what do you think the chances are that there would be scripts made for the RC3 to unlock features much like the Yi. Superview is really just recording with the full sensor and the the software stretches it out to 16:9. I am ok with the Wide setting of the RC3 but if I could get “superview” through a hack I would jump on it.

thanks Oscar!

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:29 pm

Yes I will try to do a comparison between the Yi. I don’t think Superview is possible on the current RC3 as it cannot film at 4:3.

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Dag 13th February 2017 - 7:30 pm

It would be interesting to see Runcam2 and Runcam3 compared.
DWR on the RC2 is not fantastic. But maybe they learned a few tricks from the Eagle to incorporate int the RC3 ?

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Gerry 13th February 2017 - 2:12 pm

Hi Oscar,

I hope they have made improvements on the audio. To me, this has always been an annoying quality of every iteration of their models that have come out. Video is almost there but you are paying less but the audio is horrible compaired to mobuis and polaroid(the other cheapies).

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Alexander Medvedev 13th February 2017 - 11:16 am

Battery time is a big question for runcam

Runcam 2 was pretty hungry and this battery even smaller I guess.

How long it lasts in record mode?

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Oscar 18th February 2017 - 7:27 pm

over 65 mins on mine.
It would go even longer with WDR turned off.

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Jacob 14th October 2017 - 7:43 pm

Interesting. Just received a new one – 32 minutes of recording…. I think this cam have 2 batteries inside, and maybe one of them is DOA?

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Oscar 19th October 2017 - 3:50 pm

That sounds possible, if you have tried fully charging the camera.

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Josh 13th February 2017 - 8:25 am

The “customized cable” for the gopro is actually a USB type c cable.

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 8:38 am

haha yea you are right, updated now :) Thank you!

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FPV.MIKE 13th February 2017 - 4:51 am

Do you have the bitrate and hardware/CPU information for the camera? this is really the most important information to determine the comparible quality! thanks for your reviews as always!

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 8:31 am

That’s something they might further optimize before the release… But for now, the bitrate I am getting is 30Mbps, slightly higher than the session 5

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Guile 13th February 2017 - 6:08 pm

Session 5 bitrate is 45Mbpsfor protune and 30Mbps for non protune.

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 6:24 pm

Yes you are right, on the GoPro it’s more like 29Mbps for me when protune is off.

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Jin 13th February 2017 - 3:49 am

Typo on the first image of Image quality; both pictures are labeled as Go Pro session, no Runcam 3.

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 8:24 am

thanks :) yea I copied and paste the text and forgot to edit it! but you get which is which!

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Stephen Wright 13th February 2017 - 12:28 am

Hi Oscar – can you say whether the battery is removable and it can run on 5v?

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 8:22 am

I asked them about removable batteries, even before they had the prototype ready… But the answer I got at the time was no, the design just won’t allow it. So the camera is really not designed to have the battery removed by user…
However I will take it apart and have a look inside after I’ve done the testing… See how tricky it is to remove the bat :)
From memory I think they said it can run on 5V, but I haven’t received the power cable from them yet to test this. But they also discourage users doing so, as it’s a bad practice for overall battery life.

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Stephen Wright 13th February 2017 - 11:33 am

mmm ok so not sure yet…great let us know how your experiment goes…if we could take out battery, and bring the weight down to say 40g that would give it a real solid advantage over Session…

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Nellos 9th March 2017 - 3:20 pm

Exatamente como acontece com a GoPro, utilizei a alimentação dos 5V de um F550 que eu tinha na GoPro e acabei por quase inutilizar a bateria dela.

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Alvin 13th February 2017 - 12:12 am

Audio. Compare the audio of both GoPro and Runcam. Image quality is a wash but audio is deal breaker. If RunCam can match the audio quality of a GoPro, they have winner. Otherwise….pass.

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Oscar 13th February 2017 - 8:19 am

Interesting, I have yet to test the audio, hopefully the next few days.
What’s your thoughts on Runcam’s audio? How is GoPro’s audio better?

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