Soldering Li-Ion batteries such as 18650 can be dangerous. Overheat can cause the battery to catch fire and explode. If you decide to solder battery, you are doing so at your own risk.
If you are new to soldering, you should check out my beginner tutorial on the subject first.
This is the 18650 battery I recommend for low current application.
Solder Choice
Use good quality solder with flux core, avoid using additional acid based flux (solder paste) as it will corrode the connection/battery in the long run. See my solder recommendation here.
Discharge Battery First
Before soldering, it’s best to discharge the Li-Ion battery down to 3V. The more energy stored in the battery, the more dangerous when things go wrong. 3V is the minimal safe voltage for 18650 to be discharged to. Even slightly lower voltage is okay but might be bad for the life span of the battery in the long run.
Roughen up Battery Terminals
Before soldering, scratch the top and bottom sides of the cell with sand paper to remove the oxide layer which will help solder to stick to.
Do It Quick
“Tin” both both sides of the batteries with a small amount of solder, let it cool down before soldering the wires to it.
You want to keep the time your soldering iron touching the battery terminals to a minimum (e.g. less than a second). The longer you leave your iron on the battery, the more heat will build up. For this, you want to use a powerful, temperature-controlled soldering iron.
A less powerful iron will not hold the temperature as the heat will simply get sucked out when soldering a big piece of metal. I use the TS100 iron personally, and it works really well.
Heatshrink Wrap
Finally you want to wrap it with heatshrink, such as this http://bit.ly/2JTOgLy
16 comments
Is it safe to chuck li ion batteries that only hold 10mAh charge? I got a few at home i want to solder to a 3v dc motor before binning them.
hey oscar I am planning on soldering some rechargeable batterys into some oculus rift cv1 controllers, any tips on soldering batteries into a spring tension design? I know it sounds like a really weird application but it’s a flaw with vr controllers that have spring tentioned batteries because if you swing hard enough they disconnect witch is frustrating. so, any thoughts on things to keep in mind before jumping right in with it.
but do you have to? why not just put something in between the spring to stop it from compressing, and when you need to change battery you can remove that something?
I’ve been into electric flight before lithium polymers were introduced. Brushless motors and lipos started trickling in around the same time. The performance improvements were incredible and it was clear the hobby was going to change but I had no idea that it would lead to what we have today.
Anyway, I never really considered lion cells worthy for use in flight until recently. I was flush in thousands of barely used Panasonic ICR18650BD cells used in Bird scooters. Each scooter had 60 cells, harvesting the individual cells was difficult and potentially dangerous but I’m pretty good with this stuff. I was surprised at how these cells performed and quickly soldered together a 4s pack for a quad that usually uses a 1500mah 4s lipo.
I too have the Ts100 and find it sufficient to solder cells but I also have a large cheap, 200W iron that has massive thermal capacity. I’ve found it takes literally takes only a second to make a quality solder joint with this iron. A bit of rosin flux makes it even faster. Pretinning the wire and cell is a must regardless. Lion cells can easily and safely be soldered with a dumb, cheap, large, hot iron.
Just my 2¢s on this topic.
Safety warning is never enough when you post things like this on the internet :)
Great article. You should mention that Li Ion applies to any quad. You could use it to make your freestyler go longer if you just want to cruise around. Would maxing out the freestyle quad strain the battery? Or would the quad just not perform as well as Lipo?
Would you mind including a simple wiring diagram? I’m curious which soldered wires to go to which connectors in your photos.
thanks!
Hi Oscar,
great article but I wonder why everyone is building the 18650 LiI-on-Packs parallel to the long side and not along the short side? I am thinking of a “old flasshlight design” where you put several AA batteries in series.
Is there any problem with that?
Regards Dominik
If you connect them in parallel, voltage doesn’t change, but the capacity doubles.
If you connect them in series, capacity doesn’t change but the voltage doubles.
It depends on what output voltage you want out of the pack.
I was just wondering what gauge wire you would recommend.
depends on your application, but for the maximum amp you can draw from one single 18650 cell, 20AWG should do.
Hi Oscar, whats that black glue that you are using?
That’s just electrical tape :)
Let me use 10 gauge wire as an example though I am not specifically suggesting you to use 10 gauge with the 18650 battery but it depends. 10 gauge wire has 1 ohm resistance per 1000 feet and is typically rated to 30 amps maximum. If you run 30 amps this wire gets too hot for most applications and therefore wastes power and makes a fire hazard and the voltage loss would be 30 amps x 1 ohm equals 30 volts over the 1000 feet or proportionally less for a shorter length. If you are operating loads with high starting surge currents such as motors or solenoids/ relays, etc., the instantaneous starting current can be 5 or even 10 times the normal continous rated running current so a large instantaneous starting voltage loss in the wire could be significant and may result in sluggish starting which, in turn, would cause prolonged excessive high current draw time which results in more energy loss, more heating of the wire and any transistors or other switching devices in the circuit. So if you do this simple calculation you may see the need for a much heavier gauge wire than you might otherwise not choose even though that higher current capability will be used for less than 1% of the time and the heavier wire will not come anywhere near getting warm. Of course weight and cost for heavier wire must be balanced against these other factors depending on your application. Tradeoffs like these are not always easy to evaluate.
Hi Oscar. Can you show how do you charge your 18650 using the balance charger? I have a 3500mAh x 2 (7.4V) 18650 battery, how do I charge them? Should I put it at 3.5A 7.4V or do I need to use lower amp for 18650 batteries?
I documented how to charge them in this post (scroll down): https://oscarliang.com/best-18650-li-ion-battery/
Yea charge a 2S 18650 under 3.0A should be fine, check the temperature regularly during charging, to make sure it doesn’t get warm. If they get warm then you should lower the current.